A lot of people will be idiots and take that as you saying we deserved to be attacked or something like that. Now's not the time to be pouring salt on the wound - and the reader of your comment is free to interpret it however s/he wants. That is a great quote from Chairman Mao, though.

And yeah, that stupid Nostradamus bullshit. It's the equivalent of me, right now, sitting down and writing, "Enormous bullet destroy large land in far off year." You can interpret that shit however you want some 600 years later. If we detonate an atomic bomb again for some reason in, say, the year 2610 - what do you know? I just fuckin' predicted the future! Assholes. "Big fire in big village cause late war," or something to that extent. Fucking morons believe that bullshit. I want to scream at everyone who rents the Orson Welles documentary. On the back it says, "Religious predictions backed up by renowned scientists!" Yeah, okay. Which scientists? Hehe. None who were still in the field after that documentary came out. That thing about the metal bird crashing into two statues was made up, too. If you want an eerie feeling, read Executive Order, by Tom Clancy.

And another thing, that Canadian, Sinclair... He doesn't believe the Holocaust happened. What an asshole. He goes and gives a few examples where the U.S. has had catastrophes and wasn't helped, but then doesn't even have the balls to call the attackers ingrates. And Fisk is mostly right, aside from forgetting that the Palestinians are the idiots who keep trying to fuck with Israel. None of that changes the facts, though, that Bill Maher and Jerry Falwell are shit-eating cockmasters. Yeah. Finally got to use that. Word.

That's pretty funny, aside from being written by a Jeezoid. =)

I hope that once we resolve this crap (I'm not leaving any room for "if's" here), that people continue to be patriotic. I can't ever remember seeing so many people with flags on their cars and whatnot. It'd be sad if all those people lost their lives just so that we could retaliate and then forget about it. It's really cool to have random people just wave at your, or say hello, for no other reason than to let you know that they appreciate your presence beside them, here in America. People are finally starting to feel like I've felt the past few years.

Is it just me, or does Joe Lieberman look like his face is melting?

I have posted that my official opinion is to agree with Calliander. I think I need to amend that. Well, I really don't know enough of what is going on to have an opinion. Here's the beauty of this great country and of insult, I don't have to be based in reality to form an opinion. That's been demonstrated on insult. (Take that as you will.) Anyhow, though I am not in favor of war, I am HIGHLY in favor of America standing strong as it always has. I have no desire to watch the fall of America in my life time. I don't really have the desire to watch a war in my life time. (Well, I guess there was the Gulf War, but how many Americans died in that?)

We were attacked during peace time and far too many innocent people were killed. It would be nice if we could just go about our mourning and know that this will never happen again. It would be nice if we didn't become blood thirsty and have to go out and avenge these deaths. It would be nice if we could just have faith that these fuckers will get what is coming to them. It would be nice, but it doesn't seem like it's realistic. If these cowards can steal our plans, kill our people, ram into big buildings and kill more people, who knows what other horrendous acts they are capable of. I guess if we don't stand up and put a stop to this bullshit, they'll do something else, maybe something worse.

Though I don't think it's right to kill their innocent people that had nothing to do with this, I think if we don't, we're in big trouble! It's vaguely like rules your parents make that you are supposed to obey. Say curfew is 1:00 (as it was for me when I was in HS). You stroll in at 2:00 with total disregard and no valid excuse. Your parents don't punish you, don't even say anything about it, then what would make you come home on curfew next time? (Other than respect?) Say your parents said, I'm going to punish you big time mister, but then did nothing? Again, what would make you obey curfew next time? Nothing. If your parents took away your car for a week or something, then you'd be on time next time.

Obviously, killing 20,000 people isn't really like missing curfew and there is no valid excuse. All I'm trying to say is that if we do nothing, they have no reason not to attack us again. We have to put our foot down and curb this bullshit before it gets any worse.

A man that worked at the OIT office at UMass was killed on the second plane. They wrote an article about him. His picture and a little memorial has been constructed for him in the lobby of the building where he worked. There are galleries of pictures online of the people that died. These were real people, just like you and me. It could have been any one of us had we just been in the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean Pappy just went to Belgium recently. What if that had been a plane they hijacked? These were people in the middle of their lives thinking they had all the time in the world ahead of them. Then some asshole with a cause that I'll never understand comes and puts an end to their lives. It could have been any one of us.

So no, of course I'm not for war -- it's a time of death, death of innocents. But I am for America and I am for defending the country that I love and call home. I am for protecting our freedom, including our freedom to go to work or go on vacation or whatever and feel pretty safe that we'll still be alive at the end of the day.

1212 Out.

Shut up both of you. In short... Calliander, stop being a penis fiend. Yeah, you don't think America should go to war for any reason. Fine, great... let's all sit here Till the land we love is destroyed landmark by landmark. Because that's what these pig fuckers will do. This point of view has become so predominant that we'll go to war for anybody BUT ourselves. Now, generally, I don't believe in war either. I didn't believe in Vietnam... Nobody knew what the fuck we were fighting for. I didn't believe in the gulf war because it was a war fought for oil and money. I do believe in any war that will result from this. The reason? These people attacked us where we live. They turned our very streets into a warzone. They declared war on us.

Now, the song you posted is indeed anti-war. But it's a song against wars fought for the wrong reasons. Money and Oil are wrong reasons. Fighting against a new government coming to power, that isn't that popular with our way of life, is the wrong reason. But sometimes, unfortunately war is justified. Sometimes you have to defend what's yours. The murder of six million Jews is not the wrong reason to go to war. The murder of over 20000 (that was the last count I heard, could be more) Americans in a single hour is not the wrong reason to go to war.

Now, Caniprokis, don't think I'm letting you off the hook either. Now, you realize that Calliander says stupid shit all the time. A lot of times i think he just chooses the least popular opinion, and runs with it to places it shouldn't go, just to piss people off. You just have to realize it's Calliander being Calliander and let it slide.

dude and by dude i am refering to calliander, eat a big hard stinky sticky fucking dick. sometimes man you just make me sick. Divided AMERICA stands Devided AMERICA falls thats it man.

and just think about this next time you think we should save all these terrist fucks. the death toll on tuesday is around equal to that of one YEAR at the hight if Vietnam Amercan casualties. ONE YEAR worth of Death in less then one hour in one day in "PEACE" time.

Here's my take on the situation. I'm not saying that I know hard facts, this is just what I've gathered.

Whoever did this didn't succeed.

Whoever is responsible for this incident, be it Bin Laden or anyone else, pulled this maneuver off with such efficiency that we did not even notice it happening until that first diversion hit the Trade Center. Yes, I said diversion. The two planes crashing into those buildings were merely a distraction from what the terrorists were really intending - to hit the Pentagon and the Capitol building. If you take out the Pentagon, you remove the ability to send vital information as quickly as possible amongst national security. If the ability to send vital information as quickly as possible amongst national security is removed, then so is the ability to mobilize units to defend. More importantly, also removed is the ability to figure out where to defend. In other words, you open up the Capitol building to attack. And if you take out the Capitol building, you kill almost every important leader of this country, save a few.

Four planes were hijacked by the terrorists. The first two, large airliners headed to Los Angeles from Boston (therefore capable of traveling a long distance because of an excess of fuel) were set up for two reasons. The first reason is, of course, a diversion from the actual tactic. However, the second reason for these two planes is glorification. What did we do almost immediately after the first plane crashed into the North Tower? We sent out our television crews. Every major news organization in America (and even some abroad) were on the scene to cover this brazen act of terrorism. And just as things couldn't look worse, a second plane comes in and crashes into the South Tower. What did that accomplish? Not only did EVERYONE just watch smoke and debris emit from the World Trade Center North Tower, but with the United States watching and unable to stop it, we got attacked again. Twice. There wasn't a thing we could do, and we got it all on tape. Perhaps this puts that in a little bit better light - "Look at us humiliate the American government!" said the terrorist leader.

Now, while everyone is yelling, "Oh my God!" and fretting over this terrible disaster, what's going on? A third hijacked plane crashes into the Pentagon. Something happened on that plane, though. Someone, maybe more than one, became brave and tried to overcome the terrorists piloting the hijacked plane. Why do I think this? Because if I were a terrorist, I'd want to hit the exact OPPOSITE side of the building. The news reports have said that the plane crashed into the side which was mainly offices, and that the main nerve center was not damaged at all, being on the other side of the Pentagon building. So what happened? For some reason, that third plane never hit it's intended target. Had it hit, it would have knocked out the nerve center, thereby removing that aforementioned ability to relay information quickly to the forces that could possibly stop that fourth hijacked plane from reaching it's ultimate, and most important, destination.

That didn't happen, though. What happened to that fourth plane? If you look at radar trajectory before it crashed, about five minutes before said crash took place, there was a severe jolt in its travel path. That means that something happened to the plane and it fell. It fell like a rock, because the plane was obliterated along with its passengers, which means it would have had to have done a nosedive. What usually causes a nosedive? I think, in most cases, that would be a missile. A missile. Shot by, of all people, the United States Government.

Now, I'm not laying any blame for real here, since I don't really know that much. Maybe someone got brave on that fourth plane, too, and wrested the controls away from the terrorists, only to crash it. But it seems like a logical path of thought. Bam: Two of the largest structures in the busiest city in America get taken out. When nobody's looking, a second smoke screen is thrown up to get the real deal done. Think about it from the point of view of someone who is REALLY pissed off at America. You want to cause a ruckus in the largest place possible, with the highest profile so that all kinds of attention can be diverted to it, while you sneak in the back and blow the shit out of everything important. Where do you hit? New York, of course. What in New York? Why not the World Trade Center buildings? Literally hundreds of thousands of people in any spot at any one time in that area. Making any sense?

But it's of no use to go over how this was done. The important questions are "Why?" and "Who?" "Why?" is probably a tough one. And since not everyone has the honor of the Japanese, "Who?" is also a very tough one. To figure out why, we need to look at some of our past. But first, we need to take into account how long something like this had to have taken to plan out. Those two planes hit in exactly the right spots so as to collapse both of the Trade Center towers. That means that whoever did this, for whatever reason, had to have studied plans of the buildings for quite some time. Four planes were hijacked, all so quickly and efficiently that we didn't even notice until it was too late. All four planes were headed out on long trips, thus full of fuel, and were large - 757's, I believe. So whoever did this had to know that the Trade Center buildings were designed to handle only the impact from a 707. And while that's not a secret, it's also not something your everyday person just knows. The speed and stealth of the execution of the hijackings was so excellent and so precise that they had to be carried out (rehearsed) over and over again to perfection. Our culprit has to have had a lot of free time to spend training people. Thus, the reason for this attack has to be several years old.

And this also leads into who would do it. For when we figure out a real reason for this attack, we figure out who could have done it. A fact that helps in the "Who?" category, though, is that our terrorists were suicidal. They were so devoted to whatever reason was motivating them that they didn't blink to die for it. They didn't blink to fly a few planes into some buildings. They weren't fazed by sneaking around at an airport. Those facts, combined with some past foilings, point a heavy finger at Usama Bin Laden.

I, however, don't believe that it was him.

Why don't I? Well, first of all, he has denied that it was him. Now, I'm not saying he's a trustworthy person, or that his word can be taken for truth, but I don't think he'd avoid responsibility for this. The man is an outcast from Saudi Arabia, living in Afghanistan. I highly doubt he has any concern for the place he lives in, so he wouldn't lie to protect them when he can easily flee. Also, he'd probably want to brag about being able to damage us with such precision and without us being able to stop him. No; while the people who follow him are definitely zealous, and while he's definitely had time to train people for this, and while he even announced in July that he would "hit us where it matters", I don't think it's him. I don't know who it was, nor would I be surprised if it does turn out to be him, but I just don't have the feeling that it was Bin Laden. Has anyone ever heard of reasonable doubt?

For the same reason that even the slightest missing piece of evidence keeps a defendent from being convicted, we should not rush to "bomb the shit out of" Afghanistan. Because if it's not Bin Laden, and the Taliban is not covering up for him, we will have done to Afghanistan exactly what our terrorists did to us. In our country, Timothy McVeigh was apprehended and punished accordingly for his crime. But someone from another country commits an act of terrorism and their whole country gets bombed, regardless of guilt. And while we know that there are people who wholeheartedly hate our country, making them our enemies, that alone is not a good enough reason to kill people. I can sit here and wholeheartedly hate George W. Bush, which makes me his enemy, but that doesn't give him any right to kill me.

Whoever did this is a despicable person. And while I cannot condone the death penalty, the strongest words you could use in reference to them is that they deserve to die. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour, yes. But this was on Hawaii and the Japanese government owned up to it. Now, someone has struck us on our mainland - a terrible disaster with a death toll nobody wants to know. Our mainland, not a remote state. This is reprehensible, and should not be tolerated. We need to find out who did this and punish them. They need to be punished thoroughly and the leader of this group needs to be eliminated. We need to send out a message to future such groups that they shouldn't even think of imitating this deplorable act. In the meantime, though, help out. Give blood if you can. If you're a religious person, pray your heart out for those people. Donate money to organizations that are helping recover the victims. Do something to help, because it's good. And good is the antithesis to what we witnessed today. Have a good night.

well today was the wake and tomorrow the funeral.....the wake was very sad... his parents were a reck...it was an open casket and it didn't look anythink like Aedan...it was a bad seen all around...from the lyrics of the scar face song "I NEVER SEEN A MAN CRY TILL I SEEN A MAN DIE" is completely true..some of the hardest pricks from high school were all there and i think all of them includeing myself shed a few tears because it always happens to the good kids never the crack head scumbags that that steal from u they will all live to be 100 what the fuck is wrong with this crazy place we call a world

I as all who knew Aedan am saddened by his death..this is the third young person i know that has died when it prolly could have been avoided

The first was a very close friend Sandra Ciccone...the second was not really close but used to chill with him Marcilino Rivera and now Aedan......i wasn't very close to Aedan but did look up to him and i also trusted him with my life due to the Fire Dept. So to Aedan where ever u may be now i miss u and hope that u are in a better place where ever it may be

Aedan Bloomquist 1980-2001 R.I.P.

Happy July 4th!

educational scholar???? We should all look back and think "what else did John do beside make us laugh?" well if you dig back...way back to the early 90's we will remember a little video "Where There's a Will There's a Way" this videowas created to help young people do better in school....what a great guy the laughs the learning the love the 3 L's of the late the great John Ritter